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Multiple accounts per person?

What does it mean in the user creation log when one account creates another account? How do they do that? Why do we allow that? Spıke 🎙️15:08 10-Mar-20

You can create an account whether or not you're logged in to another one. I think Wikia disallows logged-in users from creating accounts, but they have their own login system that replaces MediaWiki, so I don't know what's going on internally. It could probably be done with user permissions. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 16:21 10 March 2020

Green Potato

You know, I thought it was green because the world has gone 'viral'. Then I remembered, St. Patrick's Day. Doh!Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 11:00, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

My thumb is green, do you think I should ring the doctor? Spıke 🎙️11:04 18-Mar-20


User wants his deleted version back, at User talk:Romartus. I see two deletions but I can't get to the deleted edits with the delete button. Are we missing history of this article? Spıke 🎙️20:42 27-Mar-20

There's no "undelete" link for an existing page. On the delete form there should be a deletion log with "view/restore" links, or if you click on the history tab, you'll see "View or restore 326 deleted edits?". Or just go to Special:Undelete/Radiohead. I see multiple edits from YouFang, so it looks like it's all there. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 21:08 27 March 2020

I hit the delete button and was told there were 60-odd edits, but all these were of the current incarnation. I'll follow your recommendation and see if I can find it. Spıke 🎙️22:22 27-Mar-20

Okay, I see it. The intro suggests that the function of this page is to add edits to the history of the existing page. In contrast, what I want to do is restore the entire edit history, except the most recent 3 edits, which were a different incarnation, as a new article Paranoid Android. If I thought it would give me a helpful prompt, File exists, Overwrite/Rename/Cancel? then I'd go ahead. Considered temporarily renaming Radiohead but that probably wouldn't fool it. Spıke 🎙️22:31 27-Mar-20

If you move the current page to a different title, this will leave the deleted edits behind at the old title. You can then restore them as effectively a different article. The checkboxes can be used to restore only certain edits. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 23:37 27 March 2020

Done, thanks. 00:03 28-Mar-20 Ah, yes, the pix, thanks again. Spıke 🎙️00:54 28-Mar-20


Are you going to take this any farther? Spıke 🎙️23:31 3-Apr-20

In theory, but at the moment I'm out of ideas and supposed to be doing homework. I've moved it to my userspace. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 04:17 4 April 2020


Any ideas for Canada comedy strategies for this? All I come up with is:

  • How to apply and remove blackface without touching your face
  • How to maintain Social Distancing and still block rail shipping
  • Chinese scientist working in Canada sent back to Wuhan but allowed to keep the samples Spıke 🎙️16:16 24-Apr-20
Okay, I'm finally done with exams. You might say something about Canadian politicians' handling of the issue, such as Justin Trudeau and Doug Ford (news articles pulled semi-randomly from search results). Maybe compare and contrast with the US/Trump. My university and former high school have moved classes online, which has made things both more and less awkward, but I think this is fairly typical. They're hoarding toilet paper here too. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 04:10 28 April 2020

You prob want to take down this link

Unless if you want someone configuring the wiki... Awesome Aasim 01:23, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

The worst that could happen is somebody installing another instance of MediaWiki (which wouldn't affect this wiki), but I'm not using it at the moment, so I've forbidden access. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 04:10 28 April 2020

New upcoming VFD script

I was thinking about making a script that easily handles VFD discussions for sysops that have two options: "(keep) or (delete). It is gonna be called VFDcloser; the "keep" option will keep the article, remove the delete tag in that article and close the discussion, while the "delete" option, however, deletes the article, closes the discussion as delete and optionally protect the deleted article from anonymous creation (the script might happen in User:Whytheonlyone/VFDcloser.js). Christian (via whytheonlyone · chat · email) 23:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Sounds useful, but deleting an article also involves: (1) going through its illustrations, seeing if they are now orphaned, and deleting orphans unless some seem fit for reuse; and (2) hitting pages that now have red-links and deciding whether to remove the square brackets or link them to something else. When PuppyOnTheRadio was doing the templates we now use, we were discussing a page an Admin could call up that was a dashboard on that article, with a WhatLinksHere and other helpful tools. In the past, we relied not on automation but a deputy called the Poopsmith to finish the disposal when the Admin or VFD moderator concludes that the vote is complete.
Short of any of that, you could help by casting votes! Spıke 🎙️23:31 8-Jun-20
Spike, what do you mean that I could help by casting votes? Christian (via whytheonlyone · chat · email) 23:34, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
You can help get articles deleted (or kept) faster by voting on them.
I suppose this script would have to be used in conjunction with checking images and links. Delinking can be automated, however, as demonstrated by Twinkle. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 23:42 8 June 2020


User:Whytheonlyone's latest importation from Wikipedia, today, is a template that assumes we have the templatestyles extension installed, only we don't. If we did, it would make a lot of things simpler:

  • Editors who think their latest dropping would benefit from not having to look like the rest of the encyclopedia could take matters into their own hands, rather than having to ask Admins to further muck up MediaWiki:Common.css
  • I would use this to achieve the background photo in the {{UnNews masthead}} rather than the masthead class that is sensed by MediaWiki:Common.css
  • On the other hand, our vandal might note a new way to get unsolicited porno into Uncyclopedia, or there could be additional security problems I don't know about. Spıke 🎙️20:27 21-Jun-20
TemplateStyles only allows stylesheets in the template namespace, so it shouldn't be a problem. I went ahead and installed it. By default it only allows images from Wikimedia Commons, which I'll change if I can figure out how to write a replacement regular expression for images here. Commons has a certain reputation... ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 22:02 22 June 2020

That would be a good idea; there are illustrations in Commons that might be clinically appropriate but also have shock value if the vandal uses a template to foist it on someone not expecting it. The background I use in the masthead is a shoop and it surely isn't in Commons. Spıke 🎙️22:17 22-Jun-20

I've set it to allow only images from Uncyclopedia that are current versions. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 02:31 23 June 2020

"Mobile edit"

Where do these tags come from, "Mobile edit" and "Mobile web edit"? Do we care? Spıke 🎙️18:47 25-Jun-20

MediaWiki applies them to edits made using a phone. There was a similar "Mobile edit" tag back on Wikia. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 00:20 26 June 2020

Abuse filter 24

AF24 just bagged non-autoconfirmed user STD47, seems to be a refugee from Wikipedia. Tried to import a huge JavaScript file with <br><br>, interpreted as spambot text. Is this file benign or malicious? Is the Abuse Filter too broad? Spıke 🎙️20:24 25-Jun-20

Seems to be a Wikipedia script called RedWarn. I've changed 24 from "block" to "disallow", since blocking individual spam IPs isn't very effective anyway. (It could equally well be just "warn" -- the bot gives up after the first unsuccessful save attempt.) ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 00:26 26 June 2020
Maybe we should "try" to bring the script to this wiki? whytheonlyone💬🤠 19:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


I may have made a superficial read of this article, but my point to the newbie about sticking a warning at the start of the page is valid. If you believe it doesn't even have the comedy strategy I inferred, you would be a good person to give it one. Creating an article about something, then writing about something completely different, is only funny if there is some relation. I inferred a relation but didn't read closely enough if you say there was none. Pashute puts his very random style on full display at Collective term, which I post-edited to remove non-encyclopedic stuff like warning the reader how random it was. Spıke 🎙️16:55 2-Jul-20

No, the article shouldn't explain the joke. It does have the strategy of discussing the stereotypical fangirl who obsesses over "hot" male characters and pairs them up with each other, which has promise but could use some work. Then it digresses into a section about formerly-Wikia before coming back to fandom/fanfiction. I've removed Factfinder's additions, which is a start. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 17:48 2 July 2020

Yikes! He was on a mission. Spıke 🎙️18:25 2-Jul-20

Numerous new modules

Have you been noticing what User:Whytheonlyone has been doing? evidently importing a bunch of code from Wikipedia? I drew the line when I saw a template that redirected to his userspace, but wonder whether the new stuff works, whether it will break Uncyclopedia on my vintage browser, and what the heck he's doing, nothing that anyone has expressed a need for. Spıke 🎙️00:47 7-Jul-20

Module:Userbox in style has the perfect shape, and I consider it the "perfect" userbox. whytheonlyone💬🤠 01:38, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

"Perfect" is an expression often used by people who are certain what other people's values should be. Despite that, I await Llwy's opinion. Spıke 🎙️01:40 7-Jul-20

I've been studying for a computer programming exam, but the language used is Python, which is of no help here. Modules are written in Lua. They were introduced to Wikipedia as a supposedly less performance-intensive way to write templates, at the expense of shutting out anyone who doesn't know Lua -- though wikitext-only templates already do this for anyone who isn't familiar with them. I don't think we have anyone here who knows how to work with Wikipedia-style templates or modules. Pasting Wikipedia's code here is probably harmless, but they'll always be ahead of us on software (keep in mind the Wikimedia wikis run an unreleased "wmf" version of MediaWiki), and it's another thing we don't really know how to maintain. We do have simpler templates that get the job done. Most wikis don't need to be as complicated as Wikipedia. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 16:51 7 July 2020

I sort of understand the code, except for the : operator which looks a little like it's trying to do something jQuery-like. But I wouldn't be able to maintain it, either, except by imitation, to extend it, or especially to know my extensions were the most elegant way or even they didn't defeat the purpose of being non-performance-intensive. Nor will Whytheonlyone after, say, he gets a girlfriend. Romartus doesn't mess with the gadgets we already have, and I don't know of any other technicians among us. This would seem to be an airtight rationale for not continuing with this. Spıke 🎙️19:57 7-Jul-20

Just a reminder, I am an analogue administrator. Regards whytheonlyone is filling up the wiki with unusable templates, ermm..I don't know. Also, why the welcome to a user with zero edits - Hierl of Hammerstar? Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 00:02, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

The claim here isn't that they don't work, only that we don't need them and won't be able to maintain them. Spıke 🎙️01:19 8-Jul-20

Spike, Romartus and Llwy-ar-lawr, I was thinking that maybe we should add protection shackle images and make Template:Protected page text. whytheonlyone💬🤠 18:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Upon further review, I have found that Module:Infobox does not work. Romartus edited Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (up for a VFH vote) to remove the Infobox entirely, as it was rendering only as a Lua error message. I deleted the Module, restored the Template, restored the Star Wars article, and warned Whytheonlyone on his talk page to desist or be permabanned. I don't know what else he may have broken. Spıke 🎙️21:15 27-Jul-20

Request from Smalkade

Newbie set out to make a global change (replace a GIF with the name of a duplicate) and didn't realize how big the job was. Do you have a 'bot or other way to change Tumbleweed01.gif to Tumbleweed.gif globally? Spıke 🎙️00:04 6-Jan-21

Since File:Tumbleweed.gif seems to have been a reupload of the earlier image, I've moved File:Tumbleweed01.gif over top of it, so now any references to either file name will produce the same file. I could also replace all the references to Tumbleweed01.gif, but it doesn't seem worth the effort. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 06:09 7 January 2021 (TalkContribs (del)Block (rem-lst-all)WhoisCityProxy?WP Edits)

Very well. Separately, I deleted your overture to Anon today and banned him (third time) for making essentially the same unhelpful edits. Spıke 🎙️10:41 7-Jan-21

My bad, I haven't been following everything here. I think we've seen this person under a different IP in the past, though. Probably not someone worth wasting time on. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 14:34 7 January 2021

That could be, but merely under this IP, he had been fixating for months (between bans) on a past version of the page now at Mascot. Begone. Spıke 🎙️10:53 8-Jan-21


Veteran Uncyclopedian is back on the site, which of course does not have the email address he supplied to Wikia. Can you get him back in touch with his account? Spıke 🎙️15:25 14-Jan-21


Hi Llwy, Is it possible to remove the error tags on this page?: One marked as number 14 was for an article that wasn't featured in the end. Also, on this page - for example. The (feature) (remove) links should be either removed or replaced by the 'Feature this Article' or 'Fail this Article' you created on this page. That latter system works fine and I have been using it for the past two years without a problem. The other one is the older way of doing it and now no longer works. Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 00:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

The 14th entry seems to have been for Uncyclopedia:VFH/summary, which had the {{vfh featured}} template added to it, and the "invalid time" errors were caused by this template being on two of the pages twice. I've removed the extra templates, so the errors should be gone. I don't know what's happening with Uncyclopedia:VFH/Potato because it shows the right buttons for me. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 05:48 18 February 2021
Thanks Llwy! :)Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:49, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Toyotomi Hideyoshi

"Seems random" indeed! Anon, whom you reverted, seems the same as the named user that I reverted; thank you for catching that edit that I intended to. Spıke 🎙️23:59 22-Feb-21

St. David's Day

Ha! Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 19:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Llwy-ar-lawr/Llwy-ar-lawr/What's this do?

Nothing, now, because I deleted the category. FANDOM created it and this article was the only entry in it. Please delete this user page or override me with a better solution. Spıke 🎙️02:30 9-Mar-21

No problem -- it's gone. The blog post system wasn't really used here. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 03:06 12 March 2021


Can you tell what is going on here? In the nomination of Super Mario Odyssey, templates are failing to do their magic before transcluding garbage onto the page. I see nothing badly formatted or unprecedented about the nomination page itself, but it has been passed through our bastard child of DPL. Spıke 🎙️22:29 28-Mar-21

PS--It was something about Nigel Scribbler's signature. He denies there's anything unusual, and I don't see anything unusual. But it exited out of one of the VFH templates, which usually means a vertical bar where it doesn't belong. Spıke 🎙️22:27 5-Apr-21

HowTo talk:Recognize and fight a boss without losing your last life

We seem to have an article in the HowTo: space that begins with a space. pageid is 304343. Trying to call it up with WhatLinksHere produces an error, discussed on the above talk page. Special:BrokenRedirects is now broken. You might have to go in and delete this page, which should be a redirect. See the above link; conversation continued at User talk:Dark Web, White Hat#HowTo:Recognize and Fight a Boss without Losing your Last Life. Spıke 🎙️22:26 5-Apr-21

I've found in the past that Special:ApiSandbox can be used to easily move a page with an impossible title if one knows the pageid. I moved the offending redirect to HowTo:Recognize and Fight a Boss without Losing your Last Life, the correct title. It shouldn't cause any more problems and can be deleted if desired, but Special:BrokenRedirects is now complaining about an unrelated page called "_Take_It_Easy,_Man", and my move has broken Special:RecentChanges and Special:Log in their attempts to show it. I don't know what I can do about that. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 02:53 7 April 2021
I don't know if this is relevant or helpful but "HowTo:Take It Easy, Man" was deleted very recently: Uncyclopedia:Votes_for_deletion/Archive-2021-04. "Take It Easy, Man" never existed; it seems it's stripping the namespace. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 03:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Hey, I think I figured it out! It sounds like this bug, which has a maintenance script fix. Dark Web, White Hat (talk) 03:39, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for figuring this out. I think this is another result of the fact that people were writing HowTo: articles before there was a HowTo: namespace, some with spaces after the colon, which were translated into illegal page names. Spıke 🎙️11:22 7-Apr-21

Thanks DWWH for the maintenance script. I've (finally) run it and cleared some of the problem entries away, but it turns out it doesn't fix the page table, which is probably why Special:BrokenRedirects still isn't working. Another script may be needed. We'll see. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 00:58 1 May 2021
Special:BrokenRedirects is back after running mw:Manual:namespaceDupes.php and mw:Manual:cleanupTitles.php. This also cleared the bogus entries off Special:WantedPages, which was still reporting existing pages with custom namespaces. Unfortunately most of the invalid titles had to be moved to "Broken/Page title" because cleanupTitles couldn't convert them into something sensible. If you see a title like this, that's what's going on. I'll try to rename the ones worth fixing properly. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 18:44 22 May 2021

Thanks for this work! Spıke 🎙️18:57 22-May-21

I started in on this job, but right off the bat, Broken/SS (about the German letter) wants to move to ß (SS is about the Nazi agency) but MediaWiki faithfully translates the former to the latter on every attempt. Need magic. Spıke 🎙️19:51 22-May-21

Need more magic. I also worked DoubleRedirects, but in the only entry remaining, HowTo:Take It Easy, Man, I see no difference between the three renditions, and when I cut the third and paste it into the contents of the first, MW tells me I made no change. Spıke 🎙️21:42 22-May-21

"ß" can no longer begin titles because of changes to Unicode case functions in PHP 7.3. I've moved it to the capital version ẞ.
HowTo:Take It Easy, Man redirected to itself. The article was moved from "HowTo: Take It Easy, Man" (with a space) to "HowTo:Take It Easy, Man", and these normalize to the same title. Since the original article was deleted at VFD, there was nowhere for the redirect to go, so I deleted it. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 22:50 22 May 2021

It works for me, thanks. Spıke 🎙️23:02 22-May-21

Robert Bassili

Dark Web, White Hat listed this for deletion and I did so, as it's clearly vanity or an advertisement for the person. I saw in the page history that you had manually resurrected the page; also that most of the edits were attributed to wikia>Nasdaqau, a username which, when I clicked on it to see the other contributions, sent me over to Wikia/FANDOM! Is this supposed to happen? Spıke 🎙️13:08 26-Apr-21

I was busy that day, but I'm back. Yes and no. Manual imports through Special:Import don't just insert data for nonexistent accounts into the database, and it requires an interwiki prefix now for the site the page came from, so I gave it "wikia". This is how that comes out in the history. Not great, but it preserves attribution. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 06:45 28 April 2021

MediaWiki talk:Sitenotice id

Thank you for reverting, I used the Firefox URL memory and clicked on the first promising thing that came up! Spıke 🎙️20:40 3-May-21

Template:Basepage subpage

What is it? I was editing a page and the preview told me this template was used on the page. Has someone invented a cosmic hierarchy of all Uncyclopedia pages? Can we do anything useful with it? If not, can we make it go away? Spıke 🎙️23:00 21-May-21

I've seen this before. I just tracked it down, and it turns out {{top icon}} uses {{category handler}}, which uses the nonexistent templates {{basepage subpage}} and {{if pagename}}. I wasn't aware of the missing dependencies when I created {{top icon}} to use with {{FA}} and other top icon templates. I may as well bring over the other templates, unless we never want it to categorize pages, in which case that functionality can be removed.
As for what {{basepage subpage}} does (or would do), Wikipedia's version is at wikipedia:Template:When on basepage: "It helps other templates detect if they are on a basepage (i.e. a page whose name matches the pattern "x:x") subpage ("x:x/x") or subsubpage ("x:x/x/x")." It seems to have gotten a clearer name in 2014. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr • talk • contribs • 02:59 22 May 2021