User talk:Llwy-ar-lawr

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Uncyclopedian of the Month Award Uncyclopedian of the Month June 2018

Multiple accounts per person?

What does it mean in the user creation log when one account creates another account? How do they do that? Why do we allow that? Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif15:08 10-Mar-20

You can create an account whether or not you're logged in to another one. I think Wikia disallows logged-in users from creating accounts, but they have their own login system that replaces MediaWiki, so I don't know what's going on internally. It could probably be done with user permissions. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 16:21 10 March 2020

Green Potato

You know, I thought it was green because the world has gone 'viral'. Then I remembered, St. Patrick's Day. Doh!Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 11:00, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

My thumb is green, do you think I should ring the doctor? Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif11:04 18-Mar-20


User wants his deleted version back, at User talk:Romartus. I see two deletions but I can't get to the deleted edits with the delete button. Are we missing history of this article? Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif20:42 27-Mar-20

There's no "undelete" link for an existing page. On the delete form there should be a deletion log with "view/restore" links, or if you click on the history tab, you'll see "View or restore 326 deleted edits?". Or just go to Special:Undelete/Radiohead. I see multiple edits from YouFang, so it looks like it's all there. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 21:08 27 March 2020

I hit the delete button and was told there were 60-odd edits, but all these were of the current incarnation. I'll follow your recommendation and see if I can find it. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif22:22 27-Mar-20

Okay, I see it. The intro suggests that the function of this page is to add edits to the history of the existing page. In contrast, what I want to do is restore the entire edit history, except the most recent 3 edits, which were a different incarnation, as a new article Paranoid Android. If I thought it would give me a helpful prompt, File exists, Overwrite/Rename/Cancel? then I'd go ahead. Considered temporarily renaming Radiohead but that probably wouldn't fool it. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif22:31 27-Mar-20

If you move the current page to a different title, this will leave the deleted edits behind at the old title. You can then restore them as effectively a different article. The checkboxes can be used to restore only certain edits. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 23:37 27 March 2020

Done, thanks. 00:03 28-Mar-20 Ah, yes, the pix, thanks again. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif00:54 28-Mar-20


Are you going to take this any farther? Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif23:31 3-Apr-20

In theory, but at the moment I'm out of ideas and supposed to be doing homework. I've moved it to my userspace. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 04:17 4 April 2020


Any ideas for Canada comedy strategies for this? All I come up with is:

  • How to apply and remove blackface without touching your face
  • How to maintain Social Distancing and still block rail shipping
  • Chinese scientist working in Canada sent back to Wuhan but allowed to keep the samples Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif16:16 24-Apr-20
Okay, I'm finally done with exams. You might say something about Canadian politicians' handling of the issue, such as Justin Trudeau and Doug Ford (news articles pulled semi-randomly from search results). Maybe compare and contrast with the US/Trump. My university and former high school have moved classes online, which has made things both more and less awkward, but I think this is fairly typical. They're hoarding toilet paper here too. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 04:10 28 April 2020

You prob want to take down this link

Unless if you want someone configuring the wiki... Awesome Aasim 01:23, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

The worst that could happen is somebody installing another instance of MediaWiki (which wouldn't affect this wiki), but I'm not using it at the moment, so I've forbidden access. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 04:10 28 April 2020

New upcoming VFD script

I was thinking about making a script that easily handles VFD discussions for sysops that have two options: "(keep) or (delete). It is gonna be called VFDcloser; the "keep" option will keep the article, remove the delete tag in that article and close the discussion, while the "delete" option, however, deletes the article, closes the discussion as delete and optionally protect the deleted article from anonymous creation (the script might happen in User:Whytheonlyone/VFDcloser.js). Christian (via whytheonlyone · chat · email) 23:20, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Sounds useful, but deleting an article also involves: (1) going through its illustrations, seeing if they are now orphaned, and deleting orphans unless some seem fit for reuse; and (2) hitting pages that now have red-links and deciding whether to remove the square brackets or link them to something else. When PuppyOnTheRadio was doing the templates we now use, we were discussing a page an Admin could call up that was a dashboard on that article, with a WhatLinksHere and other helpful tools. In the past, we relied not on automation but a deputy called the Poopsmith to finish the disposal when the Admin or VFD moderator concludes that the vote is complete.
Short of any of that, you could help by casting votes! Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif23:31 8-Jun-20
Spike, what do you mean that I could help by casting votes? Christian (via whytheonlyone · chat · email) 23:34, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
You can help get articles deleted (or kept) faster by voting on them.
I suppose this script would have to be used in conjunction with checking images and links. Delinking can be automated, however, as demonstrated by Twinkle. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 23:42 8 June 2020


User:Whytheonlyone's latest importation from Wikipedia, today, is a template that assumes we have the templatestyles extension installed, only we don't. If we did, it would make a lot of things simpler:

  • Editors who think their latest dropping would benefit from not having to look like the rest of the encyclopedia could take matters into their own hands, rather than having to ask Admins to further muck up MediaWiki:Common.css
  • I would use this to achieve the background photo in the {{UnNews masthead}} rather than the masthead class that is sensed by MediaWiki:Common.css
  • On the other hand, our vandal might note a new way to get unsolicited porno into Uncyclopedia, or there could be additional security problems I don't know about. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif20:27 21-Jun-20
TemplateStyles only allows stylesheets in the template namespace, so it shouldn't be a problem. I went ahead and installed it. By default it only allows images from Wikimedia Commons, which I'll change if I can figure out how to write a replacement regular expression for images here. Commons has a certain reputation... ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 22:02 22 June 2020

That would be a good idea; there are illustrations in Commons that might be clinically appropriate but also have shock value if the vandal uses a template to foist it on someone not expecting it. The background I use in the masthead is a shoop and it surely isn't in Commons. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif22:17 22-Jun-20

I've set it to allow only images from Uncyclopedia that are current versions. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 02:31 23 June 2020

"Mobile edit"

Where do these tags come from, "Mobile edit" and "Mobile web edit"? Do we care? Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif18:47 25-Jun-20

MediaWiki applies them to edits made using a phone. There was a similar "Mobile edit" tag back on Wikia. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 00:20 26 June 2020

Abuse filter 24

AF24 just bagged non-autoconfirmed user STD47, seems to be a refugee from Wikipedia. Tried to import a huge JavaScript file with <br><br>, interpreted as spambot text. Is this file benign or malicious? Is the Abuse Filter too broad? Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif20:24 25-Jun-20

Seems to be a Wikipedia script called RedWarn. I've changed 24 from "block" to "disallow", since blocking individual spam IPs isn't very effective anyway. (It could equally well be just "warn" -- the bot gives up after the first unsuccessful save attempt.) ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 00:26 26 June 2020
Maybe we should "try" to bring the script to this wiki? whytheonlyone💬🤠 19:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


I may have made a superficial read of this article, but my point to the newbie about sticking a warning at the start of the page is valid. If you believe it doesn't even have the comedy strategy I inferred, you would be a good person to give it one. Creating an article about something, then writing about something completely different, is only funny if there is some relation. I inferred a relation but didn't read closely enough if you say there was none. Pashute puts his very random style on full display at Collective term, which I post-edited to remove non-encyclopedic stuff like warning the reader how random it was. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif16:55 2-Jul-20

No, the article shouldn't explain the joke. It does have the strategy of discussing the stereotypical fangirl who obsesses over "hot" male characters and pairs them up with each other, which has promise but could use some work. Then it digresses into a section about formerly-Wikia before coming back to fandom/fanfiction. I've removed Factfinder's additions, which is a start. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 17:48 2 July 2020

Yikes! He was on a mission. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif18:25 2-Jul-20

Numerous new modules

Have you been noticing what User:Whytheonlyone has been doing? evidently importing a bunch of code from Wikipedia? I drew the line when I saw a template that redirected to his userspace, but wonder whether the new stuff works, whether it will break Uncyclopedia on my vintage browser, and what the heck he's doing, nothing that anyone has expressed a need for. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif00:47 7-Jul-20

Module:Userbox in style has the perfect shape, and I consider it the "perfect" userbox. whytheonlyone💬🤠 01:38, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

"Perfect" is an expression often used by people who are certain what other people's values should be. Despite that, I await Llwy's opinion. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif01:40 7-Jul-20

I've been studying for a computer programming exam, but the language used is Python, which is of no help here. Modules are written in Lua. They were introduced to Wikipedia as a supposedly less performance-intensive way to write templates, at the expense of shutting out anyone who doesn't know Lua -- though wikitext-only templates already do this for anyone who isn't familiar with them. I don't think we have anyone here who knows how to work with Wikipedia-style templates or modules. Pasting Wikipedia's code here is probably harmless, but they'll always be ahead of us on software (keep in mind the Wikimedia wikis run an unreleased "wmf" version of MediaWiki), and it's another thing we don't really know how to maintain. We do have simpler templates that get the job done. Most wikis don't need to be as complicated as Wikipedia. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 16:51 7 July 2020

I sort of understand the code, except for the : operator which looks a little like it's trying to do something jQuery-like. But I wouldn't be able to maintain it, either, except by imitation, to extend it, or especially to know my extensions were the most elegant way or even they didn't defeat the purpose of being non-performance-intensive. Nor will Whytheonlyone after, say, he gets a girlfriend. Romartus doesn't mess with the gadgets we already have, and I don't know of any other technicians among us. This would seem to be an airtight rationale for not continuing with this. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif19:57 7-Jul-20

Just a reminder, I am an analogue administrator. Regards whytheonlyone is filling up the wiki with unusable templates, ermm..I don't know. Also, why the welcome to a user with zero edits - Hierl of Hammerstar? Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 00:02, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

The claim here isn't that they don't work, only that we don't need them and won't be able to maintain them. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif01:19 8-Jul-20

Spike, Romartus and Llwy-ar-lawr, I was thinking that maybe we should add protection shackle images and make Template:Protected page text. whytheonlyone💬🤠 18:20, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Upon further review, I have found that Module:Infobox does not work. Romartus edited Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (up for a VFH vote) to remove the Infobox entirely, as it was rendering only as a Lua error message. I deleted the Module, restored the Template, restored the Star Wars article, and warned Whytheonlyone on his talk page to desist or be permabanned. I don't know what else he may have broken. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif21:15 27-Jul-20

Request from Smalkade

Newbie set out to make a global change (replace a GIF with the name of a duplicate) and didn't realize how big the job was. Do you have a 'bot or other way to change Tumbleweed01.gif to Tumbleweed.gif globally? Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif00:04 6-Jan-21

Since File:Tumbleweed.gif seems to have been a reupload of the earlier image, I've moved File:Tumbleweed01.gif over top of it, so now any references to either file name will produce the same file. I could also replace all the references to Tumbleweed01.gif, but it doesn't seem worth the effort. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 06:09 7 January 2021 (TalkContribs (del)Block (rem-lst-all)WhoisCityProxy?WP Edits)

Very well. Separately, I deleted your overture to Anon today and banned him (third time) for making essentially the same unhelpful edits. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif10:41 7-Jan-21

My bad, I haven't been following everything here. I think we've seen this person under a different IP in the past, though. Probably not someone worth wasting time on. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 14:34 7 January 2021

That could be, but merely under this IP, he had been fixating for months (between bans) on a past version of the page now at Mascot. Begone. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif10:53 8-Jan-21


Veteran Uncyclopedian is back on the site, which of course does not have the email address he supplied to Wikia. Can you get him back in touch with his account? Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif15:25 14-Jan-21


Hi Llwy, Is it possible to remove the error tags on this page?: One marked as number 14 was for an article that wasn't featured in the end. Also, on this page - for example. The (feature) (remove) links should be either removed or replaced by the 'Feature this Article' or 'Fail this Article' you created on this page. That latter system works fine and I have been using it for the past two years without a problem. The other one is the older way of doing it and now no longer works. Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 00:45, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

The 14th entry seems to have been for Uncyclopedia:VFH/summary, which had the {{vfh featured}} template added to it, and the "invalid time" errors were caused by this template being on two of the pages twice. I've removed the extra templates, so the errors should be gone. I don't know what's happening with Uncyclopedia:VFH/Potato because it shows the right buttons for me. ❦ Llwy-ar-lawr talkcontribs • 05:48 18 February 2021
Thanks Llwy! :)Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 20:49, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Toyotomi Hideyoshi

"Seems random" indeed! Anon, whom you reverted, seems the same as the named user that I reverted; thank you for catching that edit that I intended to. Spıke Radiomicrophone.gif23:59 22-Feb-21

St. David's Day

Ha! Laurels.gifRomArtus*Imperator ITRA (Orate) ® 19:49, 1 March 2021 (UTC)